How to Do the Procedure



How to Do the Procedure

for Vampire Wing Lift™  Providers

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Here’s What the Vampire Wing Lift® Can Do…

Vampire Wing Lift (TM) Before & After

The arrow in the above photo marks the treated side in this woman of 35 years old.

Suggested minimum price (can price higher or give away if wanted but please do neither advertise nor routinely offer for less)…
$1,200 as a stand-alone procedure
$897 as an add on to the O-Shot® procedure.

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Here’s how to do the Vampire Wing Lift™

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37 thoughts on “How to Do the Procedure”

  1. Dr Runels and colleagues,

    I have a 64 year old women with no significant PMH, on bio identical hormones who underwent the Oshot for her many year history of urinary incontinence. I have been over 3 months and patient states it her incontinence actually got worse….. frequency and quantity. I have done this procedure many times before as per dr runels protocol only with good success. Any advice? will it be worth it to repeat the procedure?
    Thank you for any input,

    dr. jc nerette
    jcnerettejr@gmail.com

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    1. since we know that PRP does not cause destruction, then I’d wonder about other things that I’m sure you’ve considered but maybe worth looking at…
      we’ve had a couple of people get a uti (More sex–>>uti?). the only one I know of that got worse, was an overflow obstruction from injecting much more than recommended…and the problem resolved in a couple of days. So, I don’t have a good answer. I think I’d consider and ultrasound and a Urinalysis with the explanation to the patient that in over 10,000 cases, since this is the only case we know of where incontinence got worse, and since we know that PRP builds tissue (not destructive) that you want to look for what may be going on that we’re not seeing. Then if all that is negative, I would consider repeating it.

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    2. Dear Dr JC,

      I had a similar problem with one of my first O-Shot patient. Young lady (mid 30s), no problems. Was only curious about the O-Shot and we did the therapy for better orgasms. Before she had an orgasm frequency of 60-70% during intercourse. After the O-Shot it went down to 10%. Not realy an idea what to do. After 4 weeks she agreed to repeat the therapy and it went back like before within another 4 weeks.

      The only thing I found was that she took for 4 days Ibuprofen and Paracetamol because of migraine 3 days after the O-Shot.

      I do have 2 working theories:

      1.
      In literature you can find some hinds that NSAIDs are probably suppressing growth factors (and stem cells?).

      2.
      Injection of PRP will induce local inflammatory processes. In this area you’ve a lot of nerves (see picture in Netters book). Maybe the PRP has caused a local neuroinflammation. This can lead to the orgasm problems and/or the difficulties in keeping urine.

      My conclusion for the moment: no NSAID before/after (as it is already stated in the consent form), alternative anti-inflammatory formula with bromelain and papain and boswellia capsules for 1 week. Also I’m trying for every patient a lumbar injection with lidocaine or procaine (like simple “Neuraltherapy”) in region S2 – S4. This area is the reflexzone of the female (and male) genital region. In my experience this really simple injection of 5 ml Procaine is very helpfull in case of acute prostatitis and acute urinary tract infection.

      Hope this helps.

      DrH

      Dr. Geoffrey Huertgen

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  3. Hi Everyone,
    Dr. Runels suggested I post my question here in case anyone has input/similar experience with Lichen Sclerosus injections. Here is the question that I texted him this am:
    Good morning… I saw my lichen sclerosus girl back today, she is post injection four weeks. She noticed that she has two areas that look like skin tags that “came out” after the injection. While examining her I noticed a third spot in an area that I did not inject. They look just like skin tags, it also could be HPV (she has history of herpes but it’s not vesicular nor painful). Have any of your doc’s experienced anything similar or had side effects/complications? As far as her skin changes, they are about 100% resolved and her vaginal tissue is completely pink. She is beyond thrilled except for these 2 to 3 new tiny spots. She is going to see her lichen sclerosus specialist in the next couple of weeks, she will have those areas removed and will get back to me.
    Thanks! Dr.Terri Cooper

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    1. Terri,
      I am just now seeing this.
      Congratulations on helping a Lichen Sclerosis patient! This therapy may reverse the damage done; as opposed to just “hopefully” stopping it or just slowing it down.
      I would recommend that even though they look like skin tags, that they be sent for pathology. Skin tags can occur anywhere there is repetitive micro-trauma (shirt collar areas, for example), and they can occur at other places without recurrent irritation. (I have never seen skin tags in the vaginal area, but admit I don’t spend a lot of time there.) We also know that Lichen Sclerosis patients are at risk for Squamous Cell. Better safe than sorry.
      If Path is negative, I would think of HPV, which has a waxing and waning course depending on hormones and immune health, among other things.
      Do you recall or (optimally) did you record the time course of these growths coming out in relation to the PRP injection? 2 days? 2 weeks? 2 months?
      I look forward to your response.
      We are more than our numbers, and more than any one practitioner’s experience. We each contribute our unique way of looking at problems; diversity of approach and openness to new ideas are just 2 of our strengths.
      Elizabeth Owings, MD
      Birmingham, AL

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  4. Hi Dr. Runels,
    I have been a member since 2014 and have been meaning to email you for some time.
    First- THANK YOU for bringing this information to physicians and promoting public awareness. You have really done amazing things for women’s sexual health!
    Second – I recently saw a woman with MS who is having decreased (no) vulvar/vaginal sensation. Have you treated any similar patients with PRP?
    Thank you!
    Dr. Shelly Lovitt
    Gyn, Denver

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    1. I do not know if it would help with MS. As you know, it’s supposed to be a central nervous system/ brain disease primarily, but, it could be that the sensation peripherally would be helped so that even if the MS is not improved the woman may still be helped. The good news is that the treatment is so benign that you have a very low chance of making it worse, so if it were my wife, I’d want you to treat her to see.

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  5. Hello Dr. Applegate here. I cannot log in to any videos on my I pad because of “privacy settings.” Can you solve this? Thanks.
    Jerry Applegate.

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    1. Yes, I’ll fix today. I’m very sorry for your inconvenience. Not sure why some can see and not others. I do try to protect our content but sometimes the locks keep out the good guys.

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  6. Is there any information available on treating patients who have underwent gender reassignment surgery with O-shot or P-shot? I have several interested patients and would love to offer them some benefit. Thank you!
    Dr. Melissa

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    1. We just acquired a new member who does that surgery for a living. I’m going to try and arrange a webinar with that person on the call.

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  7. Hi Charles, I’ve just logged back in after a week or so and the interface on the website seems to have changed.
    After logging in via a new WordPress login page, I can’t see a number of videos due to their privacy settings (i.e. the video’s settings, not my web browser settings).
    Is there anything that can be fixed at my end?
    Also a number of links within the page appear broken (such as the “Click here for Marketing Tools” about halfway down the page).
    Thanks

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    1. we are moving the website to a faster server. I’m very sorry for the inconvenience. Should be resolved in 24 hours or less. So much traffic to the site that I needed to upgrade the server to keep the speed at premier levels.

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  9. Dr. Runels ,
    I had a 40 year old patient som got the O-Shot 08/18 without complication .
    Just swelling directly after injection!
    The swelling is gone , but the patient reported today at the clitoris is still numb !!!
    Any experiences or advice ?
    Thank you , best regards
    Axel Mühlan

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  10. Dear Dr Axel,

    I’d a similar experience with 2 patients. One we kept the ice to long before and after the clitorial injection (patient asked for extended pain management). The other one we injected more PRP volume into the clitoris (3 ml). I’m not sure about your anaesthetic you’ve used for clitoral block? Any specific side effects known (leaflet)? Without epinephrine… ?! Any known underlying disease like diabetes? Drug abuser?

    What I did:
    1.
    accurate investigation and documentation of clitoris area: any damages (ice! anaesthetic!)? any changes in colour? infection (yeast)?

    2.
    Supplementation with multi B vitamin (helps with neuropathic problems), minerals (magnesium, zinc) and some alpha lipoic acid.

    After few days sensitivity came back.

    Regards
    Dr H

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  11. I have a 72 year old patient with remote history of prostate cancer who has had 3 P Shots with improvement and now reaches orgasm even after the initial treatment but complains of continues lack of sensation. Would injecting 5 or even 10 cc PRPM into corona be a good trial in his case. He did not have prostatectomy but radiation implants.

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  15. Dear Dr.Runels,
    Two questions,(1) I use an EPAT for erectile dysfunction along with PRP after the fifth treatment and before the sixth. Should we inject the PRP more often say after every treatment? Also has EPAT been used on women to augment the O shot ?
    (2). Does the O shot help women that can have clitoral orgasms but not vaginal ones? I have several women who are complaining of this deficiency and who would like this rectified.
    Thank you,
    Andrew Ness MD

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  16. Hello group:
    My first question is piggybacking off a question I read in a previous post. If there are any post-op instruction pamphlet for vampire clients, please email me info@aestheticRN.com
    Secondly, I had an O-shot and the client had 2 large babies with 2 episiotomies. Her anatomy was very difficult to maneuver. Her urethra was approximately 1/4cm long (vertically) and it was in the middle of what appeared to be, a build up of scar tissue. Has anyone experienced this, and what was the solution?

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  18. Dr. Runels–I have a new person who wants an O shot. she is on daily low dose methotrexate. Will the O shot still work for her? will we get enough PRP? and will it work in the presence of this immunosuppresant drug? and does she need to go off this drug for a week or so before the procedure–for any risk of bleeding?
    Marcus said to tell you I am using the EMCYTE centrifuge.
    thanks for getting back to me!

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